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Does the Pentagon Leadership want to get rid of the Infantry?

I am starting to think that maybe the SecDef Gates, CJCS Admiral Mullen, and many others in the civilian-military leadership of the DoD wants to gut the Marines and Army of all of their Infantry soldiers. It first started with the supposed DADT survey that was sent out which had a overwhelming number of those who responded that were from combat arms jobs in the Army and Marines saying the repeal would have a negative effect. 

 
Q68c. 85% of Marine Combat Arms, 75% of Army Combat Arms, 64% overall say Negative, Very Negative, or Mixed impact on unit trust if DADT is repealed.

That result along with others demonstrated that those troops who are in the most stressful jobs at the pointy end of the spear which does what armies do, kill people don’t want this repeal. They know (as does this blogger) that this repeal will cause issues in those front-line units which are full of stress and danger. In fact I have already heard from several in the Infantry that they are thinking about getting out after their current enlistment expires. That was all before the panel came out suggesting that women should serve in frontline combat units, to include special operation units. 

That suggestion is a pure joke and could single-handily crush the effectiveness and abilities of our most experienced combat forces. These are forces that have been trained, honed, and shaped in the rigors of close combat over the last 10 years. That is a lot of experience to lose due to a “brain-drain” caused by soldiers getting out. I know to some, they may think that “hey if you can’t change then get out” but that statement has much more of an impact that someone may realize. 

Here is the bottom line, women do many great jobs in the military and by virtue of those jobs they get promoted, get accolades, etc. all the time. I mean we have a female Four-Star General in charge of Army Material Command for goodness sake. So don’t tell me they can’t get promoted. Women do not belong in those types of units, flat out. I watched the interview of my friends Eve Chase and Jim Hansen (www.blackfive.net/main/2011/01/women-in-combat-.html) and even though I think the world of Eve she is just wrong. Her and I served in Afghanistan at the same time and I know where she was and what she went through, but doing either her kind of job or the job that many women have found themselves in during combat is completely different than being in an Infantry Platoon. 

If you don’t agree or am not sure you know what I am talking about, watch Restrepo or Severe Clear and then ask yourselves how a female would fit into a unit like that or what impact a female would have on the cohesiveness and closeness of a unit in places and situations like this. I am not talking about a truck driver or military policeman or intel analyst. I am talking about a 27.6lb M240B machine-gun carrying, enemy killing, infantry soldier who doesn’t just happen to end of up in a close combat fight because they are in a asymmetrical battlefield, but has signed up to spend their entire military service as a killer. An infantryman is not some general soldier/marine who happens to be run convoys and maybe get hit by IEDs or far-ambushes, it is a guy who wants to find, fix and kill the enemy up close and personal. It is their entire job and all they train to do. 

All of those other jobs can go back and do their truck driving or traffic stops or paperwork filing or whatever it is they do when not on a patrol in a combat zone. An infantryman (or other combat arms profession) does nothing but train to develop skills that allows them to kill more effectively while ensuring their buddies to the left and right don’t die. 

Not wanting women in combat arms isn’t a sexist thought, it is a troop safety thought. The soldiers/marines in combat arms positions are not trained to be sexists pigs in basic training, they are made that way by birth. Unlike the cultures of many in middle-eastern countries, we as westerners are trained from birth to protect the weak, the underdog, and especially the female gender. Think about how you were raised and what you were told “never hit a girl”, “always open a door for a woman”, ” women and children first on the escape rafts”, etc. etc.

So what would happen if a soldier was heavily engaged in a firefight and one of their buddies gets hit and yells out in pain, and that “buddy” is Sherry not Steve, and that yells is a blood-curdling, high-pitch cry? I will tell you what would happen, the soldier would have their DNA response kick in and they would forget the fight they are in or be distracted from watching the flanks and instead they would render aid and try to protect the female. They will resort to primal instinct… instinct that they have been taught since birth. Soldiers could very well pay more attention to the training they have received for their entire life and not training they have known for a year or two in the military. 

I mean no disrespect to the female gender when I say this, but women have no reason to be in combat arms. It isn’t a sexist thing, it is a troop care thing. I care about soldiers and I care about our military winning its battles. If the leadership of the military cares about soldier’s lives they will never make this change. If female soldiers care about fellow soldiers, they will never push for or try this. 

So in looking back over the last month or two I am really getting convinced that the leadership in the Administration and/or the Department of Defense are trying to cut out military and save money by getting rid of all of the frontline warfighting soldiers we have today. Sad really if you ask me…

  • kurtNo Gravatar says:

    The info below was sent to my Dad by a good friend of his based on some research he has been doing regarding the females in combat arms units commission. A little history on both before I proceed. My dad served as an infantryman in the Marine Corps in Vietnam in 67/68, made the switch to the Army a few years later and retired after returning home from Desert Storm. His buddy, who did this research on the members of this commission, also served in Vietnam (as a combat engineer) and went on to retire from the Marines as a Colonel. Both have a good working knowledge and experience in the military. I am currently serving in the ARNG as an 11B and have OIF and OEF trips.

    ” I began reviewing this commission’s work yesterday after articles on this topic began appearing in the paper and weekly magazines. As far as I can determine there are three infantry officers on the commission out of 31 members. The chairman is a retired Air Force logistics officer. There are seven Air Force, five Army, one Air Guard, four Navy, one Army Reserve, two Coast Guard, three Marine regulars, one Marine reserve (Williams- served with him) and six civilians. Ten of thirty one are women. Many of the military folks are/were involved in personnel dealing with equal opportunity and diversity issues. Shamina Singh, trained in community relations, was an advisor to former House Speaker Pelosi. This commission is woefully lacking in infantry, armor, artillery and special operations membership- most of the military members never experienced life in the field. The MLDC Research Team consists of eleven women (none in the military) and two men (one an Air Force 1st. Lt.!). When reviewing their backgrounds they have dealt with harassment in the work place, diversity issues, minority officer recruiting and representation, labor economics, communications, and literature. No real military experience in this group. The MLDC Support Office consists of eleven members to include six women and five men (one Navy and one Air Force); nine of the members are civilians. Their back grounds include equal opportunity, promotion of minority members, diversity management, and community development. Ryan Callanan helped manage Hillary Clinton’s campaign to secure the Presidental nomination. Another member managed WIC programs in the Washington, D.C. area- another is a level 2 property appraiser. The Navy chief served on subs and the colonel was an Air Force navigator- no field experience in this group. I have not read any of their meeting notes yet but I will start later today after cleaning up the eight inches of snow that fell yesterday and last night. In my humble opinion this commission (to include research and support staffs) is loaded with military and civilian folks who have never been required to live for extended times in the field, carrying very heavy loads trying to “close with the enemy and destroy them by fire and maneuver”. They have NO CLUE about these policy changes they are suggesting which will “OPEN UP” combat MOS’s to enhance “opportunities” for women. If you have time, dig into this site and “pass the word” to your friends to do the same. I can’t believe why active duty and retired folks aren’t writing or calling their Congressmen/women about how stupid this idea is.

    February 1, 2011 at 12:48 am
    • BouhammerNo Gravatar says:

      Kurt,

      Very good intel. Thank you for sharing this. Can I put this into another post dealing with this topic? Actually I would like to write one up for my other blog over at youserved.com and use your findings in that posting.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:00 am
      • kurtNo Gravatar says:

        I see no problem using this info to spread the word on how ridiculous and politically motivated this is. Feel free to use the info and disseminate to as large an audience you can.

        February 1, 2011 at 6:10 pm
  • caliNo Gravatar says:

    Couldn’t agree more!
    It may sound strange, I am a woman, and think there is a place for women in our society, but combat is not one of them. It would be more destructive, then successful.
    Being married to an Army soldier, retired after 20yrs; the military is not what it used to be, and I too worked for the DOD.

    I also think that the end result of the current admin, and Chain of Command is to integrate all you guys into the UN, the blue helmet losers.

    I hope I’m wrong.

    February 1, 2011 at 4:53 am
  • danaNo Gravatar says:

    I’m also married to an army soldier, and well, what Cali said is very true. It’s not really the same and sometimes, I hate the chain of command. But what can we do?

    September 5, 2011 at 3:53 am

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